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Four things we learned from speaking to the shadow chancellor

Since last year's general election, Sir Mel Stride has become a familiar face for those of us who like our politics.

During the campaign, he regularly found himself on breakfast TV and radio. So much so, Sir Mel was referred to as the "minister for the morning round" by some of our industry colleagues.

By our count, he was on Sky News Breakfast at least 10 times during the campaign's 43 days. ???? Tap here to follow Electoral Dysfunction wherever you get your podcasts ???? Following the election, and losing the Conservative leadership race to Kemi Badenoch, Sir Mel now puts questions to Rachel Reeves as shadow chancellor.

Still seen as a safe pair of hands, Sir Mel's penchant for doing the "morning round" hasn't slowed down either, making regular appearances on breakfast TV and radio. Luckily, he found some time between all that to sit down for an interview with Sky's Beth Rigby for the Electoral Dysfunction podcast.

He spoke about his transition to Opposition, taking on Reform, and the most controversial topic in Westminster - lunch. Here's what we learned: 1.

Opposition isn't 'awful' - but it is like 'warfare'Before the election, Sir Mel served as work and pensions secretary. Shifting to the Opposition was not "awful.

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